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| | | Author | Message | David Kern 
Posts: 518 Since: 2/20/2008
|  3/27/2008 5:53:50 PM 
One thing is certain Jim, and that is the moisture problem in our industry is now getting the attention it deserves. It has cost too much $$$ in claims over the years and needs to be better understood by all.
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| Ray Darrah 
Posts: 1411 Since: 2/18/2008
|  3/27/2008 6:02:20 PM 
Moisture and hard surface claims....
Big business for the inspection industry.
The shame of it is: CC tests alone cannot determine the moisture content in the slab. CC tests measure what is coming out of the slab, not the amount of moisture in the slab that may come out given the right climate conditions at a later date. Too many CC tests are performed in conditions outsite the Test Parameters making them useless.
Just my thoughts.
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| Jim Ryan 
Posts: 958 Since: 1/12/2008
|  3/27/2008 6:13:50 PM 
Then hopefully the industry will start considering that while every slab needs moisture, so the glue will remain viable, they will see that dehumidification is especially needed in all arenas, but it is needed especially in the commercial arena, not only when installing new products, but it is best for long term use.
Consider how humans need moisture. Glue and concrete need it as well, to remain strong and to make the materials last longer and look better thru the years.
It might be that many co's. inadvertantly put moisture into their slabs and glue, by their cleaning methods or it may be that many of the larger businesses have humidity controlled buildings.
In some buildings, natural presperation, outside moisture entering every time a door opens and much more can and does help to add moisture, never realizing, while many that I have taken-up, the slabs have dried-out and the carpet starts developing all kinds of problems.
IE: Many times I have seen guys install glue=downs and not put any glue on the seams and many times as a repairman, I have gone on direct glue-downs where the guys didn't seam seal the seams and yet, no problems from some of those jobs, while others frayed at the seams and pulled easily off the floor.
The color of the glue underneath spoke volumes, just as carpet that was glued down for 15 years and the glue was still the origional color and holding very well spoke volumes.
There can be only one difference that I know of and that is some concrete retains enough moisture to keep the glue viable, while the other slabs dry-out and the glue turns brown and is easily pulled from the floor.
Moisture is a necessity for all living things and it is also necessary for many other things to remain viable. Just common sense--as I see it.
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