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Darian Brown 
Posts: 712
Since: 2/5/2008
|  6/10/2008 11:57:46 PM 
Maybe the end user spot cleaned it then apply more scotchguard.
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Hugh Scott
Posts: 194
Since: 6/1/2008
| 6/11/2008 12:27:39 AM
Fix?
Replace?
If fix how?
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Ray Darrah
Posts: 1411
Since: 2/18/2008
| 6/11/2008 6:01:59 AM
Just clean it off.
The carpet does not have "spots" of excess. The excess is everywhere.
What you see in the photos are areas of foot traffic that lifted the pile.
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Hugh Scott
Posts: 194
Since: 6/1/2008
| 6/11/2008 8:33:16 AM
Clean with what?
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Darian Brown
Posts: 712
Since: 2/5/2008
| 6/11/2008 1:39:25 PM
the topical treatments are shipped in concentrate to the manufacuturers. If they mix it too heavy and apply the Scotchgaurd or stain release with a "heavy" mix, the carpet has a tacky/gummy feel to the touch.
Serviceable by Acid Rinsing.
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Hugh Scott
Posts: 194
Since: 6/1/2008
| 6/11/2008 2:07:21 PM
Thank you,Darian
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Darian Brown
Posts: 712
Since: 2/5/2008
| 6/11/2008 2:22:58 PM
Hugh that's was Ray's post from earlier I just copy and pasted it.
Last Edited 6/11/2008
7:06:59 PM
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Hugh Scott
Posts: 194
Since: 6/1/2008
| 6/11/2008 11:59:14 PM
Thank you Ray,Darian, and all the little people who's backs......
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Darian Brown
Posts: 712
Since: 2/5/2008
| 6/13/2008 12:48:40 AM
Hugh here’s some more information on Acid Rinsing.
http://www.wipo.int/pctdb/en/wo.jsp?IA=WO2006121671&DISPLAY=CLAIMS
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Ray Darrah
Posts: 1411
Since: 2/18/2008
| 6/13/2008 9:30:15 AM
Darian,
I have to take a statement back.
Some of the topical treatments can puddle to one edge when applied in the dye liquor on a continuous dye range.
The sprayed-on topical treatments tend to be overall.
Then there are yarn lubricants. Yarn lubricants are in tufting patterns as the lubricants are lubricating one yarn at a time.
Two different things:
1. Topical treatments (soil release, stain release).
2. Yarn lubricants.
However; Jim Smith found excessive yarn lubricants that did wick up giving the "overall" problem on one of the commercial jobs he inspected. Lab results confirmed excessive yarn lubricant on a complaint that was "Rapid Soiling". The traffic lanes turned black really fast.
There are no standard answers for excessive lubricants or topical treatments, but there are "generalities".
Field testing is only indicative, not conclusive so when we inspect we are not definitive. We can say there is something on the yarn or in the carpet attracting soil and/or yellowing. We then send cutting to lab for identification testing.
I hope I did not confuse you.......... Sorry if I did.
x
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Darian Brown
Posts: 712
Since: 2/5/2008
| 6/13/2008 8:48:00 PM
Ray I was confuse way before you came along so you have nothing to be sorry for.
Actually I've learned a lot from you Ray so thank you.
Last Edited 6/13/2008
9:09:55 PM
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Ray Darrah
Posts: 1411
Since: 2/18/2008
| 6/13/2008 9:23:47 PM
It's actually easy, when you think about it.
If the carpet blackens in the traffic lanes REAL SOON after install;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;; there is a problem.
If the carpet turns yellow either in areas along the panel edge or overall::: there is a problem.
If the carpet blackens in the tufting pattern: ::: there is a problem.
If the carpet has a sticky or gummy feel::::::::::::::::there is a problem.
And most of these problems are serviceable by rinsing the excesse stuff off the carpet. If there is TOOOO much excess.... Or if there is TOO much IN THE LATEX backing........ it may not be serviceable...
BUT:: you don't know until you try.
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Darian Brown
Posts: 712
Since: 2/5/2008
| 6/13/2008 9:59:04 PM
Now that's a keeper in my files thank you Ray.
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Ray Darrah
Posts: 1411
Since: 2/18/2008
| 6/13/2008 11:01:39 PM
Glad to be of help Darian.
I get confused often and it's usually my own fault...
Last Edited 6/13/2008
11:03:06 PM
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