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Roland Thompson 
Posts: 281
Since: 2/27/2008
|  11/16/2008 10:47:14 AM 
Jerry are you not in the Virginia area?
Do you think that you could get 6 or 7 people in your area go thru the wood certification,if so I will line up and help bring it to your area.
FD
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Jerry Thomas
Posts: 96
Since: 6/3/2008
| 11/17/2008 3:33:31 AM
Thank you for the offer. We'll see what happens.
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Selva Lee Tucker
Posts: 634
Since: 5/25/2008
| 11/19/2008 4:49:52 PM
Jerry, Roland, is that the NWFA? I
talked to Sharon who said there is a
man in northern NC who is more
than qualified to do the Master level
test/grading, I hear it is very hard,
but, people have to put together
panels and set up a test site,,,all that
can get expensive, cost less to just
go to one of the NWFA's Master
Level classes at their Headquarter,
that way, the cost of renting a
space, putting together panels, is by
them, just something to think
about,
Last Edited 11/19/2008
5:00:17 PM
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Roland Thompson
Posts: 281
Since: 2/27/2008
| 11/19/2008 10:27:38 PM
Selva, Yes it was NWFA and I spend a day putting together the modulars and I also lined up over 600 feet of wood. The space was donated by L Fishman and they also supplied coffee and donut's along with lunch for the days. NWFA and CFI along with CTEF have teamed up and Jon Namba is the trainer for this. I went thru thr course but have to log into the NWFA to take the written test yet.
With help it can be brought in for little money.
FD
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Selva Lee Tucker
Posts: 634
Since: 5/25/2008
| 11/19/2008 10:49:36 PM
Kool,
I would go for it, but, the best wood installer I know of for several states is Richard Conway. I would contact him thru the
NWFA. I often consult him. And no C.M., he does not do classes, only teaches for NWFA.
He is by far the most knowledgeable wood man outside of D.B. in the southeast.
Meaning no disrespect to the people you named, but Richard has been nothing but one product his whole life, wood.
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Jerry Thomas
Posts: 96
Since: 6/3/2008
| 11/20/2008 5:19:25 AM
Yeah, Richard is very highly respected. Selva, ol"Jerry truly appreciates you taking your time to contact that lady. I will get to a class. The reason I have not been able to attend one yet is because for the last 7 1/2 years my life has been a living nightmare that I would not wish on anyone.
My house is 2200 ft on a slab and I have had 7 separate copper water lines break underneath the slab. No insurance covers this .... you can't even buy a rider to cover it, so I am having to spend thousands of dollars to make these repairs myself.
My wife is about ready to have a nervous breakdown , In 2001 I pulled up all the carpet figuring I could get the first breakage fixed and it would never happen again. Wrong......... they just kept coming. I have been living on bare concrete floors since October of 2001.
Right now I am about half way thru the house replacing every single line. I figure it will take another 25000 to 35000 to get it all fixed and all new floor covering put in.
It takes every red cent I can make to do this and I just stay flat broke. My slab is dry as a bone... all the water is a foot underneath.... if the water ever came up and caused damage my insurance would take care of it.
Not complaining though... I'm a very lucky guy all things considered. Thank you again Selva for going out of your way to offer help. Thank you too Roland. I'll get there, I'm not a quitter. 
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Roger Gerber
Posts: 327
Since: 3/17/2008
| 11/20/2008 10:36:09 AM
Jerry, easy fix, run one line up thru a wall and then feed everything from the top down. I have done it in several apts. that I have. It saves untold time and expense. Also makes it easier for repairs in the future.
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Stephen Perrera
Posts: 823
Since: 5/27/2008
| 11/20/2008 3:03:01 PM
I was going to say the same thing roger. Run it through the attic and down the walls. Its great till the pipe freezes in the attic.
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Roger Gerber
Posts: 327
Since: 3/17/2008
| 11/20/2008 9:02:49 PM
We have this thing in Ohio called insulation.
I don't think Jerry in Virginia has too much to worry about, if he insulated a little bit.
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Selva Lee Tucker
Posts: 634
Since: 5/25/2008
| 11/21/2008 12:43:27 AM
it snows, and freezes where he is
Roger,
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Jerry Thomas
Posts: 96
Since: 6/3/2008
| 11/21/2008 5:42:25 AM
Roger, I'm using PEX and the last line I replaced fed the Kitchen sink, DW, ice maker, a toilet, lavatory, laundry room and 1 outside hose bibb. The last time I did have to run up and split everything off. I'm in the mountains and we get below zero with no problem at all. I got about 2 feet of insulation over the lines and all the lines got wrapped with a commercial grade pipe insulation.
Right now I have two more lines busted and keep them cut off until I can get the time to do something.
I'm not making any excuses here, but it's difficult to deal with this, and never had time to visit my sis's who live in neighboring states and think about getting certified. Also that Building Bridges deal.
Carry on... jerry will be Okay
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Stephen Perrera
Posts: 823
Since: 5/27/2008
| 11/21/2008 4:09:42 PM
Well thats a relief Jerry. i thought you were trenching through the slab.......
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Jerry Thomas
Posts: 96
Since: 6/3/2008
| 11/22/2008 4:57:14 AM
I had to trench 3 times Stephen. ... still have to bust up the master bath suite. The last two busted lines feed the corner whirlpool , shower, toilet, 2 lavs and and a hose bibb. All these bad copper pipes loop up in the walls, t-off then go back down and come up again, over and over and over.
I'll send you some pics if you want to see the mess I got.
Sometimes I'm in a customers house and the lady says something like..... I'll be so glad when I have my house back.... . I keep my mouth shut but I can't help thinking ..... lady, if you only knew.
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Stephen Perrera
Posts: 823
Since: 5/27/2008
| 11/22/2008 10:38:10 AM
And I thought I had problems. Thats crazyman. I never heard of faulty copper pipe. Perhaps the manufacture will cover the costs or part of it....the builder?
I guess your lucky you have carpet instead of wood flooring huh?
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