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Roger Gerber 
Posts: 327
Since: 3/17/2008
|  12/21/2008 5:09:51 PM 
It has been said that carpet does not wear out but ugly out. What causes this and how should it be addressed or handled?
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Stephen Perrera
Posts: 823
Since: 5/27/2008
| 12/21/2008 9:33:35 PM
The politically correct answer is that carpet ugliy's out due to improper cushion selection, inappropriate maintenance or consumer neglect along with premature blossoming of the fiber.
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Roland Thompson
Posts: 281
Since: 2/27/2008
| 12/21/2008 9:53:49 PM
If that is not true why is it that the same carpet coming off the same roll installed with in days of each other ugly's out at a diffrent rate?
FD
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Stephen Perrera
Posts: 823
Since: 5/27/2008
| 12/21/2008 9:55:51 PM
Roland, is it in the same exact traffic pattern? Perhaps it didn't get enough stain treatment.
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Roland Thompson
Posts: 281
Since: 2/27/2008
| 12/21/2008 10:08:44 PM
That is the main reason CARE. It is with anything, your car your house what you wear if they are not taken care of they will ugly out. Not saying that now and then you can not get a lemon but you do need to take care of what you have.
FD
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Rusty Baker
Posts: 111
Since: 6/7/2008
| 12/21/2008 10:26:39 PM
Consumer error?
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Selva Lee Tucker
Posts: 634
Since: 5/25/2008
| 12/22/2008 8:13:51 AM
care, simple, Roland is right in my
opinion, care of the product....
car is a good example, I was told
years ago I would not get over
100,000 miles on my Windstar, I got
almost 400,000 when I sold it, and it
is still in use! I sold it because it
"ugly out", and people were
beginning to say things about it as I
drove up to inspections,
same with an Ion I had, at 160,000 I
sold it, I took care of it but with
both, I had no control of what
people did, like run into them,
scratch them, bump them, kick them
when mad,,,same with carpet, care
will prolong the life but care must be
taken,
same carpet in five houses, four
taken care of, will look good forever,
one not, cra0p looking,,,
now, definde "premature blooming"
please? and what causes it?
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Roger Gerber
Posts: 327
Since: 3/17/2008
| 12/22/2008 4:25:07 PM
If you are saying it's "premature" blooming that sounds like there is a 'set' time for it to bloom. So what is the time requirement, or standard to judge it against?
Does it have one or is that a nice way of saying wear?
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Stephen Perrera
Posts: 823
Since: 5/27/2008
| 12/22/2008 5:16:10 PM
"Premature" simply means before its time. Lets face it here, not all twists stay tight forever.
What is the allowed rate for blossoming? I don't know myself. But do I care about crapet anymore? Heck, I don't even like wasting the time I am right this second talking about carpet anyhoo.
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Selva Lee Tucker
Posts: 634
Since: 5/25/2008
| 12/22/2008 11:18:10 PM
heat set issue?
Premature blooming says nothing if
you think of it....what is premature?
heat set issue can be judged by
what?:::::::::: abrasive foot traffic?
is that related to texture retention?
whatever happen to appearance
retention and why? 
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Stephen Perrera
Posts: 823
Since: 5/27/2008
| 12/23/2008 9:29:38 PM
Carpet be just ugly....waste of money.
Sparsely tufted carpet gets ugly really fast.
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Rusty Baker
Posts: 111
Since: 6/7/2008
| 12/23/2008 9:59:45 PM
We just call that "fuzzy cardboard"
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Stephen Perrera
Posts: 823
Since: 5/27/2008
| 1/8/2009 9:51:09 PM
I want to make this more public than it already is. Most inspectors think delam and buckling is mostly installer related.
http://www.beaulieu-usa.com/floorcarefiles/Installation/avoidingclaimsfordelaminationwrinklesbuckles.pdf
Last Edited 4/24/2009
11:38:14 AM
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